What I'm referring to is the first post on the page (not the thread), by Kobok.
If you want the headache of reading the entire thread, be my guest, but I thought this particular post by Kobok was worth posting here. I thought the pigeon thing was really amusing.... But of course I'm biased and enjoy poking fun at ritual magic. Sue me.
http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=10385.45
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