Well, since you genuinely asked:
Enthusiasm is great, but one of the big signs of maturity and dedication and genuine interest that most people unconsciously look for, is the ability of self control and to do more listening than rattling off ideas right off the bat.
This is usually nixed if the newcomer to a forum is posting intelligent, well thought and personal responses which can trigger new conversation or further the existing one. However, most newcomers to metaphysical forums that I've seen do exactly as you've done and hop in with, "Here I am, I'm advanced and looking for something more in life, and I have all this knowledge and can do all this stuff but I'm not going to share it til I see what you have."
When I phrase it like this, do you see how it might come off as appearing to have a stench of superiority that makes most people wrinkle their noses back in distaste and flame, or run the other way (or just not respond at all)?
It's a choice to come on to the forums and read and post on them (and several Omnis don't, or don't on a regular basis.) So for those of us who do, we're looking for communication, and to have some sort of intelligent and open exchange. Offer that, come seeking that, and those who do tend to find good conversation here.
Tell us, "I know more than you" and we'll probably look amused or bemused. That's the equivalent of walking up to a complete stranger on the street and announcing, "I can kick your butt at algebra." Is the guy wearing a shirt that says, 'I suck at math' or something? Cos if he's not, you've really no idea how effective or otherwise he is at math and algebra, and proclaiming anything different til you've found out is just silly.
On "vagueness":
People may think that what is written on the Omnimancy site is also vague, and for someone who's been practicing magic or energy work for many years, solitary or not, I can understand why it seems more or less boring and basic. There's another side to that though - much of the public stuff is what is fundamental to the system. If you're bored with the fundamentals, what appreciation of the system and what it's founded on, do you have?
What appreciation are you showing those who have been here five years, ten years, or who founded Omni? Who did all the hard work to composite loose ideas into something highly structured and teachable?
These are just meant as rhetorical questions, I don't need an answer ;} but they're something to think about that I reckon most folks new to the Omni site/forums, don't tend to.
It's a case of, for example, "I can sense, yay. Okay, what's next?" Very few people I've found understand the importance and sheer complexity and vastness of the topic of senses, sensing and how/why it all works and how to work with and improve it. Given that we are working with a mostly unseen world here, that just plain scares me.
Somehow I think most people who complain what is posted is vague or very little are really complaining about that at all but more stating, "I want structure, I want to stop having to work so damn hard and so long for very little reward over such a long period of time. You guys can speed up my learning, and hell yes, that sounds inviting. So why don't we just bypass the basics and get right to the stuff I
don't know."
"I see," I may reply. "So what you're saying is you don't care diddly squat about our system, our foundation or where we came from and where we're going or how you can contribute to the group, or how the group can contribute to you...you just want to learn the next thing on the list and keep on going."
Do you think any teacher is impressed when they hear that? :3 Do you think that's what we're looking for in prospective students?
I think you've shown a fair bit of maturity in realizing many of us haven't been enthused with your behavior, and to be fair, as far as I'm aware, nobody once said anything to you about getting on our nerves until now and if you didn't know, you didn't know. You do now, and you're prepared to do something about it, so that says something at least to me.
I'm personally fine with you sticking around the site.
I would advise keeping in mind that communication tends to be an exchange of information, and be prepared to give in order to get and vice versa. We're pretty good with that as should be evident by the various lengthy forum topics that contain a good deal more information than is on the public documents.
Yes, there are things that will not be shared on the forum, or to someone outside of Omni. We take responsibility for pointing people in the direction of power and influence. Plus if someone comes to us with a problem, sometimes it's just easier and safer to say, "Can I handle this for you?" rather than teaching them how if they're not already studying with us.
Does that mean we stop sharing info at the public stuff? Nope, as the forum topics should indicate. But if it helps put it in perspective, what we know (we in general) and what knowledge we have, is often considered a part of who we are, and is very likely something we had to work very hard or go through hard lessons to acquire.
Try to keep that in mind when you ask someone to tell you what they know or teach you what they do. Because you aren't just asking for them to repeat what they read in a book someplace - at least usually not when you're dealing with mature, long-time practitioners - you're asking for them to offer up a piece of themselves, and above all else, their
time. Which given hectic lives, time is a precious commodity to many of us, and I personally would expect some sort of kindness, respect, and mutual generosity when being asked such a thing.
And if you're ever curious how to best act in someplace? You can always ask. I know many times we never think of that,
but I usually find well placed question is better received and more well thought of by most people, than a boisterous ego.
Consider the analogy of jumping into a pool that's already full of people. If you're going to dive right on in there and create a huge spash, you'd better be damn sure you're either very good friends with everyone and they'll take it in such a manner, or that you're at a public pool where it's illegal for people to hurt you and they're constantly supervised. ;P
Usually it goes over a lot better to just slip in quietly or announce yourself first and plop in, because few people enjoy a bunch of water flying in their face courtesy of a complete stranger.
If you don't know where the line is, you can always raise that question. Boundaries aren't always clear, and not all of us are very well socialized or socially competent to the point we can figure them out in person, let alone online. And even then, in life, we'll often step over a line we didn't know was there til we stepped over it.
It's a dance, and sometimes we step on toes.
You're certainly not the only one here with social issues or people issues. :}
If anyone shoots you down for asking for clarification, they're the ones with some issues IMO.
. I apologize wholeheartedly to all. I really didn't mean to and I wish to excuse myself for being so ignorant of grating on yer nerves. If you guys wanna reply to my posts with whatever you all felt about them then please do...If ya'll wanna oust me and not give me a chance then by all means.
